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Mailman3
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Purpose
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Purpose of this investigation is to find potential ways to migrate the CentOS mailing
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lists to mailman3 from the current solution and allow for a frontend. The output of the
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investigation is this document.
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Resources
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- Mailman3 upstream: https://wiki.list.org/Mailman3
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- Mailman3 Fedora dist-git: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/mailman3
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Investigation
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Here is the list of ideas/things we discussed/looked at:
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.. toctree::
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:maxdepth: 1
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building_rpm_centos_stream
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add_centos_to_fedora_server
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Conclusions
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Based on the investigations carried out the most beneficial but probably most difficult
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solution would be to build the rpms for mailman3 hyperkitty and postorius for epel. This
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would make this available for Centos but could also be used by fedora which could help
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with some longstanding issues such as
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https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/5478.
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The installation using containers would address the issues of compatibility and push
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them upstream but it also brings the problems of relying on an upstream maintainer who
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is not a part of our community.
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When installing with pip and venv similar problems are encountered as with rpm where
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dependencies are not available or up to date in the fedora or stream environment.
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Adding Centos mailing list to the fedora server would be a quick fix but doubles down on
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using the fedora setup which itself in not in perfect health. It would also involve some
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issues with naming as the centos mail list uses centos.org rather than lists.centos.org
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Proposed Roadmap
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1. Package mailman3-core postorious and hyperkitty for epel. This requires python3 base
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2. Deploy a server using the above packages.
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3. Convert all email addresses to users. This will involve comms as emails may not
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directly relate to fas users.
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4. Integrate with Accounts sso. This may potentially force mailing list users to have an
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account with Fedora/Centos which was not a rule up to now.
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5. Import all archives/lists. This may require an outage as any pending subsriptions or
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emails won't be carried across.
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6. Assign correct owners to lists. Currently in CentOS this is just controlles by
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passwords
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