diff --git a/playbooks/groups/ask.yml b/playbooks/groups/ask.yml
index faaedeec76..8de5586f27 100644
--- a/playbooks/groups/ask.yml
+++ b/playbooks/groups/ask.yml
@@ -33,8 +33,8 @@
   - denyhosts
   - nagios_client
   - fas_client
-  - fedmsg_base
   - ask
+  - fedmsg_base
 
   tasks:
   - include: "{{ tasks }}/hosts.yml"
diff --git a/playbooks/groups/mailman.yml b/playbooks/groups/mailman.yml
index 7ea296d239..7826f1447b 100644
--- a/playbooks/groups/mailman.yml
+++ b/playbooks/groups/mailman.yml
@@ -97,7 +97,6 @@
   - "/srv/web/infra/ansible/vars/{{ ansible_distribution }}.yml"
 
   roles:
-  - fedmsg_base
   - role: mailman
     mailman_dbserver: db02.stg.phx2.fedoraproject.org
     mailman_postfix_mydestination: "lists.fedoraproject.org, lists.stg.fedoraproject.org"
@@ -106,6 +105,7 @@
     mailman_hk_db_pass: "{{ mailman_hk_db_pass }}"
     mailman_ks_admin_db_pass: "{{ mailman_ks_admin_db_pass }}"
     mailman_ks_db_pass: "{{ mailman_ks_db_pass }}"
+  - fedmsg_base
 
   tasks:
   - name: install more needed packages